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[personal profile] bookofholsety
okay so it's still pretty early as far as the hacking side of the project goes, but there's been one development which i thought i'd seek opinions about. DDS is currently spending a bit of time looking at implementing the translation's font which, big surprise, i chose to pilfer from earthbound.  he conducted a couple of tests to compare outline schemes for the font and weigh the pros and cons of each, and those tests look like this:



left: a 3-colour version where the outlines are shaded with 2 colours, like vanilla fe4's japanese font
right: a 2-colour version where the outlines are a single flat colour

now, while i've got my opinions on each, i'm obviously very biased on the subject so i figure i'd see if i could sample some other opinions on the matter. to that end: which of these two do you prefer? which outline scheme do you feel looks nicer? do you have any legibility or accessiblity concerns about either one? i'm all ears

(also, for the record, i am extremely excited about my work being at least partially in patch form for the first time! you should've seen my reaction to the first test he sent)

Date: 2015-11-11 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fionordequester
Personally I believe that the right picture's font looks much cleaner. But that's me.

Date: 2015-11-11 01:44 pm (UTC)
hilow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hilow
No, I agree.

Date: 2015-11-11 04:23 pm (UTC)
taichara: (Travant)
From: [personal profile] taichara
This one, please:



The text reads as much crisper and cleaner; the other makes my eyes strain to resolve a "blurriness" that is just the font itself.

Date: 2015-11-11 04:28 pm (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
I think the left one looks a lot better. It looks much clearer and brighter and I think it's also slightly more legible.

Date: 2015-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Although I also want to say that I think the kerning is too tight now. It was more legible in your earlier screenshot.

ETA: instead of triple-commenting: I think my favorite option would actually be the one to the right, but with brighter whites for the interior.
Edited Date: 2015-11-11 04:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-11-11 07:41 pm (UTC)
hakkari: used for ace attorney posts/personal (Default)
From: [personal profile] hakkari
I prefer the one on the right. It's much easier to read, and the one on the left feels a bit blurry and is a bit of a strain for me (though that's probably because my eyes aren't great to begin with).

I do agree that the white part should probably be brightened if possible, especially if the black outline is going to be melding into the next letter like it is currently (not that it's bad it's just not as immediately readable).

Date: 2015-11-11 11:36 pm (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
I feel like the spacing right now looks nice, but might not be as easy to read as if it were given just slightly more space.

Date: 2015-11-12 09:24 am (UTC)
hakkari: used for ace attorney posts/personal (Default)
From: [personal profile] hakkari
For the most part I can read the spacing fine at a glance, it's only really when you get words like 'Milady' where the M, I, and L all seem to roll together. Same with Midir's name (honestly I think it's mostly the 'Mi' combo). The rest looks very nice.

Again, though, I have pretty garbage eyesight and issues with text blur especially when I'm tired so I could be wrong.

Date: 2015-11-14 07:01 am (UTC)
hakkari: used for ace attorney posts/personal (Default)
From: [personal profile] hakkari
I can read that one, but I think that's because the outline blends into the background so it doesn't feel like it's rolling together. It's only when the outline is thick and noticeable that I have the issue.

...let me know if that makes sense haha

Date: 2015-11-14 07:47 am (UTC)
hakkari: used for ace attorney posts/personal (Default)
From: [personal profile] hakkari
I usually play them at the default screen size that ZSNES comes with. Im fairly sure it's larger than these screenshots - dunno for sure though. It could just be that the current text is larger.

Date: 2015-11-14 09:21 am (UTC)
hakkari: used for ace attorney posts/personal (Default)
From: [personal profile] hakkari
....it works leave me alone :(

But hey most of the people I know who emulate irl use that one so I'm not alone :,D

Date: 2015-11-15 12:34 am (UTC)
mark_asphodel: Sage King Leaf (Default)
From: [personal profile] mark_asphodel
If snes9x is LESS clunky than ZNES then I don't even want to know...

The one on the right looks better to me.

Date: 2015-11-16 12:22 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Does the font in FE4 consistently appear on that samey green background? Maybe it would be worthwhile lightening the border to a similar darkness as that samey green background.
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